Kirsten is a huge fan of Chris Buttler (https://christopherbutler.crevado.com). The Liverpool based Tarot expert has created many Tarot decks - for example the much praised Quantum Tarot. He has also created a Gay Tarot - the Son Tarot. We talk about his approach to Tarot on this basis, about Gender in the cards and about his influences for the Son Tarot.